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So okay i want to write something. My interest in memetics began
because i was wondering why people are so interested in cultural
works and why so much efforts and time gets spend on media
products, art, trends...
Spending some months in this group i was discussing and reading
about what memes actually are and other not really meme-relevant
things.
What i still don't understand is what memes are actually about. Are
they developing and evoluting indepently from us. Do they live in a
virtual sphere where their evolution happens? Is their evolution
based on us, do WE select them? So there are these different
opinions, some say that memes are just tools to be used by
people.
But there are too many things i don't understand, where's the fight
between different cultural, religious, economic systems coming
from. If memes are just tools for the individual to use why all the
fight and the flamewars in newsgroups?
For me i think memes are on a large scale mostly about cultural
influence and as culture is the most important environmental factor
in todays human life yeah memes are used to produce cultural
situations where certain genes will survive.
Maybe i'm totally fucked out crazy but doesn't it make sense? We
try to shape the world so that we and the people we like can
survive in it. But everyone has different ideas and beliefs about how
such a world has to be. When someone like Jesus comes around
there's a person who unites a large number of people's ideas and
feelings about how bad things are and how they should rather be.
That's where memetic evolution comes from. Maybe this is all not
relevant at all (cause it's fact) and discussion and knowledge of it is
useless, one shall rather discuss and change culture than observe
how and why it's done at all.
Rather fuck than talking about the biological sense of it.
Rather start a revolution than talking about the evolutionary sense
of it.
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