Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA18840 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:17:59 GMT Message-ID: <000d01c19d38$e7aba600$0da0bed4@default> From: "Kenneth Van Oost" <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be> To: "memetics" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: Fw: CRASH CONTAGION Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:19:52 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kenneth Van Oost <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
> > To: memetics <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:49 PM
> > Subject: Fw: CRASH CONTAGION
> >
> >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Keith Henson <hkhenson@cogeco.ca>
> > > > > People *often* die in heroic acts. And it make no difference if
> you
> > or
> > > I
> > > > > think he was doing something stupid, what is important to
understand
> > his
> > > > > actions from an evolutionary psychology viewpoint is how he felt
> about
> > > it.
> > > >
> > > > Hi Keith, sorry for the delay. Got a lot to do and still there is
more
> > > > waiting,
> > > > anyway, what you wrote above and can agree with. That is exactly the
> > > > main point ! All the rest is due to speculation.
> > > >
> > > > > >Obtaining attention and a wife were not the boys
> > > > > >motives to crash a plane in a building !
> > > > > I disagree. A substantial fraction of what people do is directed
> > toward
> > > > > gaining status. Those actions led directly to reproductive
success
> > > (most
> > > > > of the time and in a tribal environment).
> > > >
> > > > << Yes, of course, but such assumption can' t be applied here !
> > > > What did the boy exept !? To live and tell about it !?
> > > > To get a wife and tell his children and grandchildren about his
heroic
> > > > exploits !?
> > > > To get any reproductive success out of killing himself !?
> > > > Status seems logical to me, he, maybe earned a footnote in history,
> but
> > > that
> > > > will be all.
> > > >
> > > > > >Setting fire to a nearby wood would not have giving the same
impact
> > > > > >than crashing a plane in a building !
> > > > > >Teens imitate teens, remerber ! Nurture by the kin- group is far
> more
> > > > > >important than the teaching of the eldery, parents, bin Laden or
> > other-
> > > > > >wise !
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe, but the note found on him was clear about bin Laden.
> > > >
> > > > << Yes, to give himself the credit of having an attitude, to give
any
> > > > meaning
> > > > of importance, to make a ' statement ' ! But what is the real
meaning
> of
> > > > such writings !? Kids do, and say the darnest things. I do
understand
> > > that,
> > > > we the eldery, do not listen to what kids have to say, we don 't see
> the
> > > > cries
> > > > for help which kids throw at us, but on the other hand, and that is
my
> > > view,
> > > > some cries are indeed very real, are legitimate, but don 't throw
away
> > the
> > > > child out of the kid !! Some kids do stupid things, but there is no
> > reason
> > > > to look for deeper meanings. We think we have to, to understand the
> > kids,
> > > > and that is maybe our mistake !!
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Kenneth
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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