Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id GAA01861 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:08:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.240.222.132] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: CRASH CONTAGION Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 01:03:54 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F92YtszJikOmHZgewAF000162d9@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jan 2002 06:03:55.0124 (UTC) FILETIME=[41084340:01C1980A] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: "Philip Jonkers" <philipjonkers@prodigy.net>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: RE: CRASH CONTAGION
>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 23:46:05 -0500
>
>--- Original Message ---
>From: "Wade T. Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
>To: "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
>Subject: RE: CRASH CONTAGION
>
> >Hi salice@gmx.net -
> >
> >>Ask all outsiders whether they plan to crash
> >>a plane in the near future?
> >
> >It's a nice little hindsight fact that, if we had
>been aware of certain
> >signs, we would have not only singled out the
>hijackers, but, indeed,
> >apprehended them months earlier.
> >
> >What indeed shall we do?
> >
> >It's a nice little hindsight fact that, if someone
>had actually gone into
> >the bedroom of one of the Columbine kids, that
>tragedy would have been
> >prevented.
> >
> >And it's a nice little hindsight that, if someone had
>actually taken a
> >good look at the kid in Florida (a nice quiet kid no-
>one paid any
> >attention to), that might have been prevented, too.
> >
> >I don't have any answers here, but, yes, this
>hindsight sucks. There were
> >way too many red flags up.
> >
> >So, what's the response to red flags these days? Is
>it really that no-one
> >gives a shit?
> >
> >Looks that way.
> >
> >Maybe we're too busy these days making our own little
>corners tidy. Or
> >maybe it don't really matter whom we're stepping over
>all the time.
> >
> >And yet, we also have the little case of the shoe-
>bomb dupe, incompetent
> >and clumsy, who made himself all too obvious, and in
>his case, there was
> >a response to the red flags, although he was waving
>them with both hands.
> >Nice little case of hindsight, but he should have
>remained in France.
> >
> >But, yeah, just how far is a deviation needed to be
>before the general
> >alarm is out?
> >
> >Why is it while we're burying the dead that we
>realize what we've been
> >ignoring?
>
>Hi Wade, well you might say we're handicapped in
>spotting pending disaster if the potential perpetrators
>are covertly planning such devastating operations.
>How on earth are people to recognize possible threats
>if they don't receive any clues or signs?
>The kid was shy and introverted as you say (this
>reminds me also of your typical serial killer), there
>was no way to detect his devious plans.
>Also most people mostly need really strong
>alarming signals to trigger them to undertake
>preventive action. You think twice before you make a
>possible fool of yourself, right?
>
>
More details are coming to light and make this case a bit harder to fathom
as some who knew the boy recall him in a manner at odds with someone capable
of such an act. The notion that he was a loner seems to be contradicted too.
This just shows that everything is far too preliminary to jump to any
conclusions.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/682652.asp
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/01/07/plane.crash.suicide
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,42334,00.html
The kid was apparently an honor student too, from what I've been reading.
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