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> I actually don't think that they would get any genetic advantage but
> certain genes/alleles they carry... are shared by lots of others.
<< Like I said, this is an expression of what lives within the upon religion
based American society. In general, Americans are not aware of the " we "
stuff, they think in general claims because they think what is best, better
and go one better is universal_ from out their upon religion based way of
thinking, tradition, current expressions, family,...are the cornerstones of
any society.
The hard lines, expressed as in Modernism do go them by. They all want
America a paradise to be ( the American Dream), they see their actions,
throughout the world, as a result of some kind of providence.
They are so vain!
America is trying to re- establish paradise. Modernism with its low
information contents contradicts the religious/ ethical base where upon
it is built. It is still like an island, encapsulated in its own history and
memory.
America neither provides the physical/ psychological nor the emotional
comfort for its citizins_ still the thought that everything is universal
true is in
place.
The notions that ' white ' is still superior than black are in force.
The notions that anyone who does not meet the expecations of the envi-
ronment asks for a reproof are still in force.
The language which Bush still uses in adressing the American people, and
the world for that matter, is bulged with the rhetoric of war and vengance.
That is not Modern, that is not how you express progress, that is no way
seeing the future. America's threshold of understanding the rest of the
world
is so low that it can 't even raise the thought that it views aren 't shared
by
the lots of others!
America is in pursuit of an utopion paradise. But it will never succeed if
it klings onto its general claims.
Cultural evolution is rightly based upon the differences which causes
problems between people, but it will end if you dismiss any conflict
between people, styles and ideologies,....
Memetics can play a role in any analyses, but I don 't think memetics can
be that objective that own tastes don 't influence the perspectives.
Regards,
Kenneth
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