Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id AAA07606 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:59:38 GMT Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:54:31 -0800 Message-Id: <200111240054.fAO0sVh27813@mail11.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [216.76.255.3] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Verbal memeticism Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> Re: Verbal memeticismDate: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:37:12 -0500
> "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>
>Hi Joe E. Dees -
>
>>Not only is everything verbal memetic, but everything
>>technological possesses a memetic component, as well.
>
>Is this ubiquity not a problem?
>
Language is almost totally memetic (the only nonmemetic parts of it are the physical media used to speal and write, and even their meaning-holding configurations are memetic), and technology possesss a memetic component, inasmuch as physical problems are skinned in certain ways and not others, and these ways have significative, and thus memetic, status.
It makes drawing the boundaries between the memetic and the non-memetic difficult, as we, to expand upon a Frederic Jameson book title, live in a prison-house (which nevertheless provides us with astounding freedoms to think and do things we counld not otherwise think and do) of languange and technology. But it nevertheless is a ground condition within which we find ourselves, and thus if we wish to define our fishbowl's parameters, we must do so from inside of it.
>
>- Wade
>
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