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Hi Vincent, thanks. I don't doubt the 85% return figure, but do the
description of seductive debauchery. That does not square at all with my own
experience of the Amish.
As for suing the programme...that would be for the Amish, the harmed group,
not me; knowing the Amish, they wouldn't bother, though. I do believe
strongly in freedom of speech, but wouldn't it be nice if we each had a
penny for each time a journalist deliberately exagerrated or slanted their
story, in order to get attention paid to it? :-)
Lawrence
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Vincent Campbell
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:22 AM
> To: 'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'
> Subject: RE: Wade's last week's phrase of the day...
>
>
> Hi,
>
> This was a programme in the well regarded 'Witness' documentary strand on
> the UK's Channel 4. The figure of 85% return rate was what the Amish told
> the programme makers, and the programme presented it as a caption
> at the end
> of the show. I don't believe I presented that as fact, but as a
> claim. Sue
> the programme makers, or the Amish, not me or Chris.
>
> Vincent
>
> > ----------
> > From: Chris Taylor
> > Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 1:52 pm
> > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > Subject: Re: Wade's last week's phrase of the day...
> >
> > Lawrence DeBivort wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >>I think this is a clever con - take a nice middle class kid
> (raised for
> > >>years 'on the farm') and dump it in a room full of drugs
> booze and eager
> > >>members of the opposite sex for a bit and I bet 85% (the return rate)
> > >>turns out to be the chance they'll get badly burned by the
> experience of
> > >>'freedom'. "Gee take me back to the simple (if slightly dull)
> life that
> > >>I understand and am not afraid of, so I can rationalise my
> avoidance of
> > >>*that* scary nightmare that wasn't half as much fun close up"...
> > >>
> > >
> > > Chris, I'm afraid the programme you watched was long on fantasy and
> > short on
> > > facts. Where in the world did you see this???
> >
> >
> > Huh? I was just responding to someone else's post...
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Chris Taylor (chris@bioinf.man.ac.uk)
> > http://bioinf.man.ac.uk/ »people»chris
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
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