Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id KAA13414 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:32:37 GMT Message-ID: <002f01c16a2b$ddcb22e0$119ebed4@default> From: "Kenneth Van Oost" <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> References: <3180E460.06CD5A01.00A07139@netscape.net> Subject: Re: Re: Wade's last week's phrase of the day... Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:01:48 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: <mcvjones@netscape.net>
Hi Mark,
You write,
> But what really drives our conformity behavior, why so often when we
recognise in ourselves irrational conformity behavior, we can't then change
it?
<< That bugs me too, though !
But personal I would turn your question upsude down.
What makes it for us so difficult to be an " real individual " !?
I understand the importance of being part of a group, survival- like that
is, but than only for those dark years of our existence.
We have since then moved up a little bit further upon the ladder of life
and nowadays individuality is a modern concept.
We have the abilities the move away fom any given group but we do not.
Why !?
In a Darwinian- sense, our neural/ memetic connections are fighting just
like all the rest for space. The Darwinian struggle/ competition for
connections
has been won by those ' collective/ group/ conformism ' advances.
IMO, nowadays, those connections are loosing their grip, " use it or lose
it ".
And why can 't we change those habits !?
Yes, maybe because those things were hard wired into our existence, but
in a more memetical sense, individualistic memes were to soft to survive due
to facts like survival, society, religion, environment, etc... which were
stronger. But we evolved and IMO, in our ' modern ' times individualistic
memes has a far more greater chance to survive due to science, due to the
collapse of society ( its degeneration), due to the collapse of religion....
and maybe to the memes themselves if we take their selfish behavior for
granted.
Best,
Kenneth
===============================================================
This was distributed via the memetics list associated with the
Journal of Memetics - Evolutionary Models of Information Transmission
For information about the journal and the list (e.g. unsubscribing)
see: http://www.cpm.mmu.ac.uk/jom-emit
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Sun Nov 11 2001 - 10:45:50 GMT