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Thanks, Wade. Do you have a date for bin Laden's statement?
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>
> The black and white of it.
>
> - Wade
>
> **********
>
> Bin Laden's Statement
>
> Following is the translated text of Osama Bin Laden's latest statement,
> as posted on the British Broadcasting Corporation's web site.
>
> We praise God, seek His help, and ask for His forgiveness.
>
> We seek refuge in God from the evils of our souls and our bad deeds.
>
> A person who is guided by God will never be misguided by anyone and a
> person who is misguided by God can never be guided by anyone.
>
> I bear witness that there is no God but Allah alone, Who has no partner.
>
> Amid the huge developments and in the wake of the great strikes that hit
> the United States in its most important locations in New York and
> Washington, a huge media clamor has been raised.
>
> This clamor is unprecedented. It conveyed the opinions of people on these
> events.
>
> People were divided into two parts. The first part supported these
> strikes against US tyranny, while the second denounced them.
>
> Afterward, when the United States launched the unjust campaign against
> the Islamic Emirate in Afghanistan, people also split into two parties.
>
> The first supported these campaigns, while the second denounced and
> rejected them.
>
> These tremendous incidents, which have split people into two parties, are
> of great interest to the Muslims, since many of the rulings pertain to
> them.
>
> The polls showed that the vast majority of the sons of the Islamic world
> were happy about these strikes.
>
> These rulings are closely related to Islam and the acts that corrupt a
> person's Islam.
>
> Therefore, the Muslims must understand the nature and truth of this
> conflict so that it will be easy for them to determine where they stand.
>
> While talking about the truth of the conflict, opinion polls in the world
> have shown that a little more than 80 per cent of Westerners, of
> Christians in the United States and elsewhere, have been saddened by the
> strikes that hit the United States.
>
> The polls showed that the vast majority of the sons of the Islamic world
> were happy about these strikes because they believe that the strikes were
> in reaction to the huge criminality practiced by Israel and the United
> States in Palestine and other Muslim countries.
>
> After the strikes on Afghanistan began, these groups changed positions.
>
> Those who were happy about striking the United States felt sad when
> Afghanistan was hit, and those who felt sad when the United States was
> hit were happy when Afghanistan was hit. These groups comprise millions
> of people.
>
> The entire West, with the exception of a few countries, supports this
> unfair, barbaric campaign, although there is no evidence of the
> involvement of the people of Afghanistan in what happened in America.
>
> The people of Afghanistan had nothing to do with this matter. The
> campaign, however, continues to unjustly annihilate the villagers and
> civilians, children, women, and innocent people.
>
> The entire West, with the exception of a few countries, supports this
> unfair, barbaric campaign.
>
> The positions of the two sides are very clear. Mass demonstrations have
> spread from the farthest point in the eastern part of the Islamic world
> to the farthest point in the western part of the Islamic world, and from
> Indonesia, Philippines, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan to the Arab world and
> Nigeria and Mauritania.
>
> This clearly indicates the nature of this war. This war is fundamentally
> religious. The people of the East are Muslims. They sympathized with
> Muslims against the people of the West, who are the crusaders.
>
> Those who try to cover this crystal clear fact, which the entire world
> has admitted, are deceiving the Islamic nation.
>
> They are trying to deflect the attention of the Islamic nation from the
> truth of this conflict.
>
> This fact is proven in the book of God Almighty and in the teachings of
> our messenger, may God's peace and blessings be upon him.
>
> Under no circumstances should we forget this enmity between us and the
> infidels. For, the enmity is based on creed.
>
> We must be loyal to the believers and those who believe that there is no
> God but Allah.
>
> We should also renounce the atheists and infidels. It suffices me to seek
> God's help against them.
>
> God says: "Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee
> unless thou follow their form of religion."
>
> It is a question of faith, not a war against terrorism, as Bush and Blair
> try to depict it.
>
> Many thieves belonging to this nation were captured in the past. But,
> nobody moved.
>
> It is a question of faith, not a war against terrorism, as Bush and Blair
> try to depict it.
>
> The masses which moved in the East and West have not done so for the sake
> of Osama.
>
> Rather, they moved for the sake of their religion. This is because they
> know that they are right and that they resist the most ferocious,
> serious, and violent Crusade campaign against Islam ever since the
> message was revealed to Mohammad, may God's peace and blessings be upon.
>
> After this has become clear, the Muslim must know and learn where he is
> standing vis-a-vis this war.
>
> After the US politicians spoke and after the US newspapers and television
> channels became full of clear crusading hatred in this campaign that aims
> at mobilizing the West against Islam and Muslims, Bush left no room for
> doubts or the opinions of journalists, but he openly and clearly said
> that this war is a crusader war. He said this before the whole world to
> emphasize this fact.
>
> Anyone who lines up behind Bush in this campaign has committed one of the
> 10 actions that sully one's Islam.
>
> What can those who allege that this is a war against terrorism say? What
> terrorism are they speaking about at a time when the Islamic nation has
> been slaughtered for tens of years without hearing their voices and
> without seeing any action by them?
>
> But when the victim starts to take revenge for those innocent children in
> Palestine, Iraq, southern Sudan, Somalia, Kashmir and the Philippines,
> the rulers' ulema (Islamic leaders) and the hypocrites come to defend the
> clear blasphemy. It suffices me to seek God's help against them.
>
> The common people have understood the issue, but there are those who
> continue to flatter those who colluded with the unbelievers to
> anesthetized the Islamic nation to prevent it from carrying out the duty
> of jihad so that the word of God will be above all words.
>
> The unequivocal truth is that Bush has carried the cross and raised its
> banner high and stood at the front of the queue.
>
> Anyone who lines up behind Bush in this campaign has committed one of the
> 10 actions that sully one's Islam.
>
> Muslim scholars are unanimous that allegiance to the infidels and support
> for them against the believers is one of the major acts that sully Islam.
>
> There is no power but in God. Let us investigate whether this war against
> Afghanistan that broke out a few days ago is a single and unique one or
> if it is a link to a long series of crusader wars against the Islamic
> world.
>
> Following World War I, which ended more than 83 years ago, the whole
> Islamic world fell under the crusader banner - under the British, French,
> and Italian governments.
>
> They divided the whole world, and Palestine was occupied by the British.
>
> Since then, and for more than 83 years, our brothers, sons, and sisters
> in Palestine have been badly tortured.
>
> Hundreds of thousands of them have been killed, and hundreds of thousands
> of them have been imprisoned or maimed.
>
> Let us examine the recent developments. Take for example the Chechens.
>
> They are a Muslim people who have been attacked by the Russian bear which
> embraces the Christian Orthodox faith.
>
> Russians have annihilated the Chechen people in their entirety and forced
> them to flee to the mountains where they were assaulted by snow and
> poverty and diseases.
>
> Nonetheless, nobody moved to support them. There is no strength but in
> God.
>
> This was followed by a war of genocide in Bosnia in sight and hearing of
> the entire world in the heart of Europe.
>
> For several years our brothers have been killed, our women have been
> raped, and our children have been massacred in the safe havens of the
> United Nations and with its knowledge and cooperation.
>
> Those who refer our tragedies today to the United Nations so that they
> can be resolved are hypocrites who deceive God, His Prophet and the
> believers.
>
> Are not our tragedies but caused by the United Nations? Who issued the
> Partition Resolution on Palestine in 1947 and surrendered the land of
> Muslims to the Jews? It was the United Nations in its resolution in 1947.
>
> Those who claim that they are the leaders of the Arabs and continue to
> appeal to the United Nations have disavowed what was revealed to Prophet
> Mohammad, God's peace and blessings be upon him.
>
> Those who refer things to the international legitimacy have disavowed the
> legitimacy of the Holy Book and the tradition of Prophet Mohammad, God's
> peace and blessings be upon him.
>
> This is the United Nations from which we have suffered greatly. Under no
> circumstances should any Muslim or sane person resort to the United
> Nations. The United Nations is nothing but a tool of crime.
>
> We are being massacred everyday, while the United Nations continues to
> sit idly by.
>
> Our brothers in Kashmir have been subjected to the worst forms of torture
> for over 50 years. They have been massacred, killed, and raped. Their
> blood has been shed and their houses have been trespassed upon.
>
> Still, the United Nations continues to sit idly by.
>
> Today, and without any evidence, the United Nations passes resolutions
> supporting unjust and tyrannical America, which oppresses these helpless
> people who have emerged from a merciless war at the hands of the Soviet
> Union.
>
> Let us look at the second war in Chechnya, which is still underway. The
> entire Chechen people are being embattled once again by this Russian bear.
>
> The humanitarian agencies, even the US ones, demanded that President
> Clinton should stop supporting Russia.
>
> However, Clinton said that stopping support for Russia did not serve US
> interests.
>
> A year ago, Putin demanded that the cross and the Jews should stand by
> him.
>
> He told them: You must support us and thank us because we are waging a
> war against Muslim fundamentalism.
>
> The enemies are speaking very clearly. While this is taking place, the
> leaders of the region hide and are ashamed to support their brothers.
>
> Let us examine the stand of the West and the United Nations in the
> developments in Indonesia when they moved to divide the largest country
> in the Islamic world in terms of population.
>
> We should view events not as separate links, but as links in a long
> series of conspiracies, a war of annihilation.
>
> This criminal, Kofi Annan, was speaking publicly and putting pressure on
> the Indonesian government, telling it: You have 24 hours to divide and
> separate East Timor from Indonesia.
>
> Otherwise, we will be forced to send in military forces to separate it by
> force.
>
> The crusader Australian forces were on Indonesian shores, and in fact
> they landed to separate East Timor, which is part of the Islamic world.
>
> Therefore, we should view events not as separate links, but as links in a
> long series of conspiracies, a war of annihilation in the true sense of
> the word.
>
> In Somalia, on the excuse of restoring hope, 13,000 of our brothers were
> killed. In southern Sudan, hundreds of thousands were killed.
>
> But when we move to Palestine and Iraq, there can be no bounds to what
> can be said.
>
> Over one million children were killed in Iraq. The killing is continuing.
>
> As for what is taking place in Palestine these days, I can only say we
> have no one but God to complain to.
>
> What is taking place cannot be tolerated by any nation. I do not say from
> the nations of the human race, but from other creatures, from the animals.
>
> They would not tolerate what is taking place.
>
> A confidant of mine told me that he saw a butcher slaughtering a camel in
> front of another camel.
>
> The other camel got agitated while seeing the blood coming out of the
> other camel. Thus, it burst out with rage and bit the hand of the man and
> broke it.
>
> How can the weak mothers in Palestine endure the killing of their
> children in front of their eyes by the unjust Jewish executioners with US
> support and with US aircraft and tanks?
>
> Those who distinguish between America and Israel are the real enemies of
> the nation. They are traitors who betrayed God and His prophet, and who
> betrayed their nation and the trust placed in them. They anesthetize the
> nation.
>
> These battles cannot be viewed in any case whatsoever as isolated
> battles, but rather, as part of a chain of the long, fierce, and ugly
> crusader war.
>
> Every Muslim must stand under the banner of There is no God but Allah and
> Mohammad is God's Prophet.
>
> I remind you of what our Prophet, may God's peace and blessings upon him,
> told Ibn Abbas, may God be pleased with him.
>
> He told him: Boy, I am going to teach you a few words. Obey God, He will
> protect you. Obey Him, you will find Him on your side. If you ask for
> something, ask God. If you seek help, seek the help of God.
>
> You should know that if all people come together to help you, they will
> only help you with something that God has already preordained for you.
>
> And if they assemble to harm you, they will only harm you with something
> that God has already preordained for you. God wrote man's fate and it
> will never change.
>
> I Tell the Muslims who did their utmost during these weeks: You must
> continue along the same march.
>
> Your support for us will make us stronger and will further support your
> brothers in Afghanistan.
>
> Exert more efforts in combating this unprecedented war crime.
>
> Fear God, O Muslims and rise to support your religion. Islam is calling
> on you: O Muslims, O Muslims, O Muslims.
>
> God bear witness that I have conveyed the message. God bear witness that
> I have conveyed the message. God bear witness that I have conveyed the
> message.
>
> God's peace and blessings be upon you
>
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