Re: "Smoking" Memes

From: Scott Chase (ecphoric@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Nov 01 2001 - 01:08:20 GMT

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    From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com>
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    Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:08:20 -0500
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    >From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com>
    >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    >To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    >Subject: Re: "Smoking" Memes
    >Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:47:29 -0500
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    >>From: Chris Taylor <Christopher.Taylor@man.ac.uk>
    >>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    >>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    >>Subject: Re: "Smoking" Memes
    >>Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:47:58 +0000
    >>
    >>LDB:
    >> > I've suggested before on the list that a meme, to be accepted by an
    >> > individual, has to meet criteria that are, indeed, specific to the
    >> > individual, and include the individual's key beliefs and hierarchy of
    >> > values. While there are several ways that a meme can be crafted that
    >>will
    >> > enable it to be effective with large and unspecified groups of people,
    >>the
    >> > basic reality is that meme-acceptance is individualistic.
    >>
    >>I think the basic notion here is that two people can never have the same
    >>idea (/meme), except superficially, because a 'copy' is just a surface
    >>copy, consisting of different components (those available in a specific
    >>host mind). Can't remember where I read that - one of the JoM papers...
    >>
    >>Kinda like comparing similar ecosystems consisting of different types of
    >>organism (mammals v marsupials etc.).
    >>
    >>
    >Are mammals and marsupials different types of organisms? Or is the latter a
    >subset of the former?
    >
    >Maybe you're thinking of mammals with a yolk-sac placenta (metatherian
    >marsupials) versus those with a chorioallantoic placenta (eutherian "true
    >placentals")? Even the egg-laying platypus (a protherian
    >
    Make that prototherian...damn those subconscious errors...
    >
    >monotreme) is a
    >mammal.
    >
    >Kent GC and Miller L. 1997. Comparative Anatomy of the Vertebrates. Wm. C.
    >Brown Publishers. Dubuque IA
    >
    >

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