Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id BAA09532 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 1 Nov 2001 01:13:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.240.222.132] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: "Smoking" Memes Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:08:20 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F144pMpkjooKsDBigZ40000f317@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2001 01:08:20.0663 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2614470:01C16271] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: "Smoking" Memes
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:47:29 -0500
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>>From: Chris Taylor <Christopher.Taylor@man.ac.uk>
>>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>>Subject: Re: "Smoking" Memes
>>Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:47:58 +0000
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>>LDB:
>> > I've suggested before on the list that a meme, to be accepted by an
>> > individual, has to meet criteria that are, indeed, specific to the
>> > individual, and include the individual's key beliefs and hierarchy of
>> > values. While there are several ways that a meme can be crafted that
>>will
>> > enable it to be effective with large and unspecified groups of people,
>>the
>> > basic reality is that meme-acceptance is individualistic.
>>
>>I think the basic notion here is that two people can never have the same
>>idea (/meme), except superficially, because a 'copy' is just a surface
>>copy, consisting of different components (those available in a specific
>>host mind). Can't remember where I read that - one of the JoM papers...
>>
>>Kinda like comparing similar ecosystems consisting of different types of
>>organism (mammals v marsupials etc.).
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>Are mammals and marsupials different types of organisms? Or is the latter a
>subset of the former?
>
>Maybe you're thinking of mammals with a yolk-sac placenta (metatherian
>marsupials) versus those with a chorioallantoic placenta (eutherian "true
>placentals")? Even the egg-laying platypus (a protherian
>
Make that prototherian...damn those subconscious errors...
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>monotreme) is a
>mammal.
>
>Kent GC and Miller L. 1997. Comparative Anatomy of the Vertebrates. Wm. C.
>Brown Publishers. Dubuque IA
>
>
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