Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id XAA09432 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 31 Oct 2001 23:52:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.240.222.132] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: "Smoking" Memes Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:47:29 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F53LiC1h1jYhAOylhgn00007457@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2001 23:47:30.0140 (UTC) FILETIME=[673E31C0:01C16266] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: Chris Taylor <Christopher.Taylor@man.ac.uk>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: "Smoking" Memes
>Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:47:58 +0000
>
>LDB:
> > I've suggested before on the list that a meme, to be accepted by an
> > individual, has to meet criteria that are, indeed, specific to the
> > individual, and include the individual's key beliefs and hierarchy of
> > values. While there are several ways that a meme can be crafted that
>will
> > enable it to be effective with large and unspecified groups of people,
>the
> > basic reality is that meme-acceptance is individualistic.
>
>I think the basic notion here is that two people can never have the same
>idea (/meme), except superficially, because a 'copy' is just a surface
>copy, consisting of different components (those available in a specific
>host mind). Can't remember where I read that - one of the JoM papers...
>
>Kinda like comparing similar ecosystems consisting of different types of
>organism (mammals v marsupials etc.).
>
>
Are mammals and marsupials different types of organisms? Or is the latter a
subset of the former?
Maybe you're thinking of mammals with a yolk-sac placenta (metatherian
marsupials) versus those with a chorioallantoic placenta (eutherian "true
placentals")? Even the egg-laying platypus (a protherian monotreme) is a
mammal.
Kent GC and Miller L. 1997. Comparative Anatomy of the Vertebrates. Wm. C.
Brown Publishers. Dubuque IA
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