Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id SAA14852 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-bounces@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 11 Oct 2001 18:09:33 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:27:15 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Memes in brain Message-ID: <20011011132715.B1833@ii01.org> References: <200110091917.OAA23695@snipe.biotech.ufl.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200110091917.OAA23695@snipe.biotech.ufl.org>; from gatherer@biotech.ufl.org on Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 02:17:11PM -0500 From: Robin Faichney <robin@ii01.org> Sender: fmb-bounces@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 02:17:11PM -0500, Derek Gatherer wrote:
> Robin
> Cognitive science is all about the mind.
>
> Derek
> The mind? Hmm... I think it's more to do with the neurological correlates
> of behaviours, emotions, decision making, even morality (see the fascinating paper
> in Science 239, 2105-2108 An fMRI investigation of emotional engagement in moral
> judgement).
Cognitive science is not primarily about neurology. The focus is on
functionality. Leaving "neurological correlates" aside, the rest of
what you mention there sounds very "mind-like" to me. The supernatural
interpretation of "mind" is a straw man.
> As far as the mind goes, I think probably follow Dennett in not believing it
> exists.
I'd be grateful for a reference on that.
> To pursue your chess analogy, it's like looking at the chess pieces
> but then asking to see the chess set. (c.f. Ryle's man who wanders around
> every Oxford college looking for 'the university')
So you think chess sets and universities don't really exist? Seems like
rather a useless usage of "real", to me.
How about this: the trajectory of a missile can be accurately tracked
and recorded using the appropriate instrumentation. Is that trajectory
real, or not?
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