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Philip:
> > Exactly! You and I seem to be on the same level here...
> > The medium not only has to have some criterion on which memes to
> > adopt but also it should be motivated, in general, to adopt
> > memes in the first place!
Kenneth:
> I would like to add a little, tiny thing to that.
> The medium, whatever that might be, should not only motivated to
> adopt memes, but it should be also at the " right place in time " !!
Hi Kenneth,
Fair enough.
Though memetic is less blind than bioligical in the sense
that it can be controlled to some degree, memes are a product
of human creativity after all, it can be that memes showing
up today are more useful tomorrow. Such as the anti-terrorism
inventions done prior to 11-Sept now come in awfully handy.
Although the event of 11-Sept is likely to ignite a tremendous
memetic boost towards developing more anti-terror memes.
In response, terror-memes will tend to be subjected to
evolutionary boosts too, triggering development of more
anti-terror memes. And so on....
Kenneth:
> Thinking like this, I assume that we can say that every meme of the
> now
> is also, in essence a meme of the future !?
Only if it's successful enough, yes... unsuccessful ones will be supplanted
by more successful ones, it's a law of evolution.
> Assuming of course that every memetic lineage is never finished,
that it
> always evolves further ( new meanings are added, new effects are
> sorted
> out,...) No !?
Evolution knows no limits as long as there are resources and as long as
they are finite in a sense that offer can't keep up with demand.
Philip.
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