Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id XAA13607 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 17 Aug 2001 23:39:08 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [209.240.220.143] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Logic + universal evolution Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:35:08 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F34hZ26yJKs8TAGUjGn0000ac4b@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2001 22:35:08.0655 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE88E7F0:01C1276C] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: "Dace" <edace@earthlink.net>
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>Subject: Re: Logic + universal evolution
>Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:18:08 -0700
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>As this list demonstrates, humans are no less vulnerable than birds to
>collective mentality and behavior.
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Not being as memocentric as some of the readership here, I don't know
whether I'm a card-carrying member of the "collective". I'm not totally
anti-meme, just agnostic.
Many of us are skeptical of Sheldrake's ideas, but aside from that we have
quite different views on other topics. A broad brush would obscure the
differences.
Sheldrake's ideas overlap with my interests in places (memory, evolution,
development, etc) so I might have less clogged ears than others. I still
don't feel MR has any veracity though. My interest is in the concept and its
mnemic bases.
Haeckel entertained vibrational or wave-motion based theories on heredity
with perigenesis and plastidules (analogous to Darwin's pangenesis and
gemmules) . I wonder how this sort of organic memory compares and contrasts
to Sheldrake's views.
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