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> > Hi Chris,
> > You wrote,
> > > Sorry, I'm the culprit for introducing that into the discussion.
> > > How would this 100th monkey story differ from the blue tits and milk
> > bottle
> > > thingy? These notions becoming a part of the collective consciousness,
> > wrong > as they may be, are fair game in this forum. Frans de Waal talks
> > about the
> > > 100th monkey stuff in his book _The Ape and the Sushi Master_ (2001,
> Basic
> > > Books, New York). What is it about these ideas that is so appealing?
> >
> > << How can you be so sure that those stories are wrong !?
> > You have no prove that a mecanism drives the birds and the monkeys
> > or not !
> > It is still a mystery, all the reasoning is highly hypothetical.
> > It is IMO not a " prove" that a nearby scientific application says it
has
> > to be wrong because its prove shows it that way, that it is wrong !! The
> > prove it will have is just circumstancial.
> > It must be proven, either way !!
> >
> > And maybe further investigation into what makes those ideas so appea-
> > ling will turn out to be the tenet of what memetics is all about !!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kenneth
> >
>
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