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Hey Wade, I said:
> >Also it does `separate wheat from the chaff' if I correctly
> >understand your niche.
then you said:
> What I meant was, it maintains useless entities,
> like appendixes. What we are is a build upon what came before,
> since it is a process.
Granted, I had a hunch you meant that anyway.
> A good designer removes unnecessary things- starting from the
> design specs, not the present model.
I agree still.
then I said again:
> >Of all the macro-species, humans came out as winners in the
> >rat-race called biological evolution.
you replied:
> But that's not proving anything. Yes, we're doing great in
> these present conditions, and we can do great in a handy lot of
> conditions, but, we're just as vulnerable as anything else, and
> a deal more vulnerable to environmental change than, say, ants.
> Mammals were a thin sort of niche, anyway, once upon a time.
I know, humans are not perfect. The smaller the organism, like
ants for instance, the faster it can adapt to changing environmental
conditions. But we have (memetic) intelligence on our side.
We find ourselves to be able to protect ourselves increasingly
more adequate from the quirks of nature and its disasters.
What species can afford to be inter-specific altruistic
besides humans? We can do this because we're on top. We have
access to the most resources of this planet, and we
don't have to fear sharing it with other rivaling animals
in a threatening way that poses danger to the human species.
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