Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA11614 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:01:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:46:48 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Memes and Archetypes Message-ID: <20010725194648.A11109@ii01.org> References: <F1401PN92vob16DpXca000039e0@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <F1401PN92vob16DpXca000039e0@hotmail.com>; from ecphoric@hotmail.com on Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 09:17:14PM -0400 From: Robin Faichney <robin@ii01.org> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 09:17:14PM -0400, Scott Chase wrote:
>
> First it might be a good thing to establish that Dawkinsian "memes" and
> Jungian "archetypes" indeed exist.
What does it mean to say that a pattern "really exists"? It obviously
does not exist in the same sense that an individual physical object does.
But in an essay entitled Real Patterns, in The Journal of Philosophy, Dan
Dennett argued that (some) patterns should, indeed, be considered real.
Also relevant are considerations of information -- items of which patterns
obviously are -- and subjectivity and objectivity. Most of these aspects
are discussed, with particular reference to memetics, on my website.
-- "The distinction between mind and matter is in the mind, not in matter." Robin Faichney -- Inside Information -- http://www.ii01.org/=============================================================== This was distributed via the memetics list associated with the Journal of Memetics - Evolutionary Models of Information Transmission For information about the journal and the list (e.g. unsubscribing) see: http://www.cpm.mmu.ac.uk/jom-emit
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