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From: "Pascal Jouxtel"
> Logic is one of those memeplexes so powerful that they have become
> absolutely dominant; dominant to such an extent that the very stuff of our
> thoughts relies on it, and that we don't even see them anymore.
To say there's a meme for being logical is like saying there's a gene for
being alive. Logic is an expression of something more fundamental than
human culture. When humans are logical, it's no different than nature being
natural or animals being animated. Logic doesn't have to selfishly
propagate its own kind at the expense of all competitors. It follows by
necessity in the context of abstract intelligence.
> I suppose the same could be said of other memeplexes like the Self, and
also
> like another one almost invisible, which I should call 'the existence and
> unicity of reality'.
The "self" is shorthand for self-existence. Organisms exist intrinsically.
This is in contrast to purely physical objects, which exist only in relation
to their parts, to other objects, to the forces acting on them, etc. To
exist in relation to oneself is to be singular and whole.
Regards,
Ted Dace
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