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From: Chris Taylor <Christopher.Taylor@man.ac.uk>
......but I have to admit I was intrigued by the pyramid
thing; not that I swallow his version wholesale, it's just that I wasn't
overly convinced that everything had been explained by the opposition -
and remember Moses (another middle class revolutionary) came from Egypt
into history - with a little help from Santorini.
Hi Chris,
<< No thanks, it was my pleasure all along !!
And yes, the reason why I dive into such things too is my profound doubt
that everything has been or can be explained.
With modern scientific insights we could re- interpretate the Bible if we
would like.
For example, the visions Jesus or some of his followers had, can be
explained as consequences of a lack of water, food,.. walking in the
desert is no good for your health you know.
Even with a little bit of luck we could be tempted to say that Christ
had a Near- Death- Experience. He saw " God " and came back from
the death with a story about a wonderful world and an afterlife.
And anyone in those days would have believe it,...
( By the way, that is my idea,....)
Does anyone know of similar antecedents of Islam?
<< I am not so deep in Islam, but I have here before me a preview about
a book called " Islamitic Philosophy, a history " ( translated title)
wherein
the writer Michiel Leezenberg ( a Dutchman) argues that Islamitic thought
is not that different from our Western thinking.
After all, he argues, the themes which Islamitic philosophy claim their own
are the same which we do talk about.
That is not so strange as it seems, because the old Greek philosophy is
a very important source for Islamitic thinking.
" Without the Greek philosophy the Islamitic thought is not possible ".
Further, Plato and Aristoteles are part of their philosophical tradition,
and in part the stoical logic has its traces into the juridical and
theological
arguments.
So, in a sense you can say the same antecedents are part of Islam, but
I don 't think that Islam is a continuation of what in Egypt was a religion.
Best regards,
Kenneth
( I am, because we are) not that religious
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