Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id NAA00383 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 15 May 2001 13:58:44 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:12:05 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Information Message-ID: <20010515091205.A943@ii01.org> References: <3AFC51FB.28858.10E8C8E@localhost>; <20010514173813.A447@ii01.org> <3AFFECA3.3869.10F66F@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AFFECA3.3869.10F66F@localhost>; from joedees@bellsouth.net on Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:33:07PM -0500 From: Robin Faichney <robin@ii01.org> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:33:07PM -0500, joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
> On 14 May 2001, at 17:38, Robin Faichney wrote:
>
> > Information is not a particular thing whose attributes
> > cannot conflict with one another -- "information", on the other hand,
> > is a word that can be, and is, used in various ways, some of which are
> > quite different from each other. Communication theory, as that term
> > is normally, consensually used, is about the fundamentals of
> > communication: what's required *before* meaning can be conveyed.
> >
> And that which is being conveyed has SOME meaning to qualify as
> INFORMation, plus it must be conveyed to someone in order to
> INFORM.
Your dogmatism is futile. Look up "information theory" and/or
"communication theory" in any relevant reference work. For students in
computing, telecoms and physics, this is first year stuff. You are *way*
out of line. I didn't particularly like the fact that "information"
is used in such counter-intuitive ways, when I first came across it,
but I wasn't so stupid as to think I could change it.
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