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On 3 May 2001, at 19:36, Robin Faichney wrote:
> On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:56:15PM -0500, joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> > We cannot fall into the behaviorist trap of
> > dismissing the unobserved as nonexistent...
>
> You seem very happy to do just that regarding information.
>
But information is different, in that unless it INFORMs someone,
that is, unless it is observed, it is not INFORMation, but pattern or
configuration. It cannot possess significance or meaning unless it
signifies or means something to someone. I have no doubt that
unobserved pattern, structure and/or configuration indeed exists,
but as it is unobserved, no one is INFORMed concerning its
particularities, thus there is no INFORMing, hence no
INFORMation. The systematically configured marks in books only
become information when someone is writing or reading them.
> --
> Robin Faichney
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