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Yeah, possibly.
I suspect it's also to do with profound problems of trying to measure these
attitudinal environments, especially since public opinion as a concept, and
polling as a research tool are highly problematic (despite being used
widely).
Vincent
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> From: William Benzon
> Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 1:32 pm
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: The Status of Memetics as a Science
>
> on 4/25/01 7:07 AM, Vincent Campbell at v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk wrote:
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> >
> > ... b)
> > there are entire industries engaged in persuasive communication already
> who,
> > despite the money paid to them by clients, have absolutely no way of
> > predetermining the effectiveness of their efforts, and when they are
> > successful its largely nothing to do with them, and everything to do
> with
> > the attitudes of those they're trying to persuade).
>
> It's really quite amazing isn't it?
>
> Taken collectively, those attitudes are the environment in which these
> pesky
> little meme thingys must survive. But memeticists give almost zero
> attention to them.
>
> Why? I suspect because it would seem to diminish the power of these
> memes,
> making them seem less like self-propelled vehicles of mentation.
>
> BB, the curmudgeon
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