Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id QAA20047 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 16:09:12 +0100 Subject: RE: The Status of Memetics as a Science Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:05:19 -0400 x-sender: wsmith1@camail2.harvard.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, Claritas Est Veritas From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> To: "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <20010421150519.AAA1645@camailp.harvard.edu@[205.240.180.21]> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Hi TJ Olney -
>I think it has been mentioned here, but it is worth mentioning again. The
>profession that goes by the name of "Public Relations" used to go by the name
>of "Propagandists" until Goebels so abused the methods.
Well, I do think Bernays might have some disagreement with that, were he
here to bring up the genesis of public relations as a profession.
>Because, science or not, there are profoundly
>practical implications for how to tailor campaigns of any kind to spread
>points of view and sell products.
Certainly. Public relations, marketing, advertising, drama, public
speaking, product placement, body language, font design, how to win
friends and influence your uncle.... They all been here awhile, perhaps,
forever.
If a meme is simply and irreducibly (and all-encompassingly) an idea,
then the techniques used to spread it could, I suppose, be called memetic
engineering, if, for some reason, we have some need to redefine the
mechanisms of perceptual influence. Personally, I feel it is specious,
until we define and isolate this meme thing. So far, those who call
themselves memetic engineers appear to be only idea panderers.
Dime a dozen on any street corner.
- Wade
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