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From: "Kenneth Van Oost" <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Re: Determinism]
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Aaron Agassi <agassi@erols.com>
> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Re: Determinism]
>
>
> >
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> >
> >
> > "Aaron Agassi" <agassi@erols.com> wrote:
> > >>> Now you speak of knowledge, not truth. Truth, after all, may be
> > >>> unknown. But never provisional.
> > <SNIP>
> > > The distinction between truth and knowledge has already come up. And
> > > truth isn't so slippery. Truth is correspondence to reality in
> > > statements. Knowledge there of is distinct.
> >
> > ''Truth is correspondece to reality'' But isn't the question of reality
> the
> > underlying issue? If it is, then who's reality? (note: Gettier Problem.)
> >
> > *There is only one objective reality. Of which we are all a part, and
none
> > have ownership. Subjective perception is an entirely different question.
> Our
> > various individual models of reality are in part true, corresponding to
> > reality, and in part false and erroneous.
>
> << But just a question here !
> Are we really part of the same reality !?
> Which reality is that !?
> I know people who does not understand that the sun is a star in the
> universe !!
That is a Phenomenological matter, not Ontology.
<And you are trying to persuade me that we are all part of
> the same reality !?
> There are people living apart from this reality where we live in !!
>
> And to the comment that our individual models are only in part true I
> wish to say, no I don 't think so, they are from our individual bias true
> as they ought to be.
That is sheer Relativism, which isn't even as internally consistent as
Solipsism.
>We have no other perspective of reality than our
> own.
True. But don't confuse the different (flawed) maps with the same territory.
>We can 't hold the whole of reality in the palm of our hand.
> Reality is my reality !!
False.
>
> Best,
>
> Kenneth
>
> ( I am, because we are) as real we can get
>
>
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