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From: Aaron Agassi <agassi@erols.com>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: Determinism]
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> "Aaron Agassi" <agassi@erols.com> wrote:
> >>> Now you speak of knowledge, not truth. Truth, after all, may be
> >>> unknown. But never provisional.
> <SNIP>
> > The distinction between truth and knowledge has already come up. And
> > truth isn't so slippery. Truth is correspondence to reality in
> > statements. Knowledge there of is distinct.
>
> ''Truth is correspondece to reality'' But isn't the question of reality
the
> underlying issue? If it is, then who's reality? (note: Gettier Problem.)
>
> *There is only one objective reality. Of which we are all a part, and none
> have ownership. Subjective perception is an entirely different question.
Our
> various individual models of reality are in part true, corresponding to
> reality, and in part false and erroneous.
<< But just a question here !
Are we really part of the same reality !?
Which reality is that !?
I know people who does not understand that the sun is a star in the
universe !! And you are trying to persuade me that we are all part of
the same reality !?
There are people living apart from this reality where we live in !!
And to the comment that our individual models are only in part true I
wish to say, no I don 't think so, they are from our individual bias true
as they ought to be. We have no other perspective of reality than our
own. We can 't hold the whole of reality in the palm of our hand.
Reality is my reality !!
Best,
Kenneth
( I am, because we are) as real we can get
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