Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id XAA01331 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 14 Apr 2001 23:57:04 +0100 From: <joedees@bellsouth.net> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:59:45 -0500 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Determinism Message-ID: <3AD89011.25970.503312@localhost> In-reply-to: <20010414113454.C1365@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <3AD724C2.20889.70FBE@localhost>; from joedees@bellsouth.net on Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 04:09:38PM -0500 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On 14 Apr 2001, at 11:34, Robin Faichney wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 04:09:38PM -0500, joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > On 13 Apr 2001, at 9:28, Robin Faichney wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 12,
> 2001 at 07:35:03PM -0500, joedees@bellsouth.net wrote: > > > > > Yes,
> it is more likely that six-toed people will be born than > > six- >
> headed ones, partly because the latter would not survive to > > >
> reproduce (at least not with me! ;~)), but also partly because of > >
> > morphological constraints. > > > > Morphology doesn't constrain
> mutation any more than selection does. > > Morphology doesn't even
> exist at the point of chromosome damage. What > > is constrained is
> development. What survives to be born is a poor > > indication of
> what mutated in the gonads. > > > That's true, but some mutated
> instructions simply cannot be > morphologically carried out in
> gestation. In such cases, the > embryo or fetus is naturally aborted,
> or is stillborn.
>
> Which was precisely my point. So what's your's?
>
It was my point in the first place; you have gone from disagreeing
with it to attempting to hijack it. Morphological constraints meant
that some mutations demand undevelopable forms, and these are,
of course, not gestationally realized, because they cannot be.
> --
> Robin Faichney
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