Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id RAA22692 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:35:52 +0100 Message-ID: <00c601c0c2a4$ea66bac0$5eaefea9@rcn.com> From: "Aaron Agassi" <agassi@erols.com> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> References: <3AD2DB0C.10E293B9@bioinf.man.ac.uk>; <20010410133332.D1720@reborntechnology.co.uk> <3AD3A935.30001.5E567E@localhost> <20010411111843.A842@reborntechnology.co.uk> Subject: Re: Determinism Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:31:52 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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From: "Robin Faichney" <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: Determinism
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 12:45:41AM -0500, joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
> >
> > > The only way two scenarios can be absolutely identical is if you look
> > > at one scenario twice. In which case, the same decision would be
> > > made.
> > >
> > > I hope you don't think that's a glib or tricksy answer. I mean it
> > > absolutely seriously. If everything is the same, then everything will
> > > be the same.
> > >
> > But the same situation cannot ever recur; even memory of the first
> > would be too much, as would the simple molecular changes of
> > ourselves and our environs. The impossible is an illegitimate
> > hypothetical.
>
> If you'd been reading to understand, rather than skimming to argue,
> you'd have seen that's exactly what I meant.
>
But he assumes that limits to simulation must also then apply to initial
reality!
> --
> Robin Faichney
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