Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id PAA22397 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:46:34 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:36:53 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: memes- remember them? Message-ID: <20010411153653.B1232@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <20010411125051.AAA6886@camailp.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010411125051.AAA6886@camailp.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]>; from wade_smith@harvard.edu on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 08:50:41AM -0400 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 08:50:41AM -0400, Wade T.Smith wrote:
>
> I was also going to mention, backing up into memetics once again, that it
> is with some nod towards determinism, i.e. the deterministic facets of
> behavior, that some people embrace memetics at all...
Of course. That's how it originated: to explain persistent patterns of
behaviour that don't make genetic sense. The "pop" approach is to hope
it will explain persistent behavioural patterns that are irrational,
but that's misplaced, both because genetic behavioural tendencies are
at least arational (sp?), if not irrational, and because rationality
itself can be analysed in memetic terms.
Personally, if anyone cares, what I'm here for is to investigate the
relationship between objective (deterministic) and inter/subjective
explanations of behaviour. I'm sorry if that sounds pretentious,
but it's the simple (or maybe not so) truth. Anyway, as I see it,
memetics is very clearly on the objective/deterministic side, when
taken to its logical conclusion, though as Richard Brodie has
shown, the concept can be used humanistically too.
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