Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id BAA08427 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:10:29 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [209.240.221.62] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Determinism Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 20:06:17 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F7BnccYTjr8cU6xfPTe000013e8@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2001 00:06:17.0369 (UTC) FILETIME=[66C9F090:01C0BE2D] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
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>Subject: Re: Determinism
>Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:06:04 -0400
>
>On 04/05/01 09:03, Chris Taylor said this-
>
> >Actually this is worth asking: Is there anyone on this list who doesn't
> >think that a brain composed of neurons, interacting through electrical,
> >chemical and mechanical routes only, is enough to make a mind?
>
>Yup. Me.
>
>If it ain't in a human body, we have no proof that it's possible. I do
>happen to think that the 'brain in a box' hypothesis is bogus. The mind
>has fingers and toes and eyes and ears.
>
>
I suppose you're not intrigued by the plot of that wondrous Berkeleyian (the
idealist not the university) movie _The Matrix_? I grant that I'm probably
not having my thoughts and perecptions generated by a computer, but the
argument does set a neat little contrast with other views. I'm not formally
acquainted with the B.I.V. argument, but have caught snippets in neverending
threads on usenet.
I'd consider *my* car an extension of *me*. If a bird poops on *my* car, it
has in essence pooped on *me*. I wonder if my mind inteacts with my car in
some strange way.
Would one's personal diary be a compoent of their mind? Can a mind be
partially offloaded onto other media? Those tought might not be easily
recollected several months later unless ecphorized by the cues in a diary.
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