Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id SAA01128 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:58:03 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:49:30 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Determinism Message-ID: <20010404184930.A1269@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <20010403214415.B699@reborntechnology.co.uk> <004d01c0bc87$83e4f140$5eaefea9@rcn.com> <20010404091412.B10999@reborntechnology.co.uk> <008e01c0bce3$3a40d7a0$5eaefea9@rcn.com> <20010404112028.C679@reborntechnology.co.uk> <00b701c0bcf4$e83c9360$5eaefea9@rcn.com> <20010404152036.C675@reborntechnology.co.uk> <011301c0bd1a$068431a0$5eaefea9@rcn.com> <20010404164452.A551@reborntechnology.co.uk> <013401c0bd23$347ebcc0$5eaefea9@rcn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <013401c0bd23$347ebcc0$5eaefea9@rcn.com>; from agassi@erols.com on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:20:46PM -0400 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:20:46PM -0400, Aaron Agassi wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robin Faichney" <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk>
> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:44 AM
> Subject: Re: Determinism
>
>
> > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 11:15:03AM -0400, Aaron Agassi wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > Free choices being subjective, then, do not contradict with
> > > objective
> > > > > > > determinism.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You got it!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now all we have to do is get it clear that subjectivity is not
> > > generally
> > > > > > inferior (or superior) to objectivity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > What ever are you talking about?
> > > >
> > > > Again, I have to spell it out: despite being subjective, freedom is
> just
> > > > as real as -- something real.
> > > >
> > > Where does superiority or inferiority come into it?
> >
> > Illusions are generally considered inferior to real phenomena.
> >
> I don't understand.
Don't you prefer reality over dealing with illusions?
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