RE: taboos

From: Lawrence DeBivort (debivort@umd5.umd.edu)
Date: Mon Apr 02 2001 - 15:11:26 BST

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From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
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Subject: RE: taboos
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    Thanks, Vincent. I would think subliminal communications and influence would
    be fairly simple to test under rigorous conditions. The effect, if there is
    one, has significant implications for memetics. Does anyone know of such
    research being carried out?

    -----Original Message-----
    From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
    Of Vincent Campbell
    Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 5:52 AM
    To: 'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'
    Subject: RE: taboos

    I've mentioned before a piece in 'Skeptical Inquirer' from a defence witness
    in the Judas Priest subliminal message trial (suicides blamed on the rock
    group). It's available online, (I've gicen the ref before, and can't
    remember it off hand now), and gives a good working through of the lack of
    evidence for subliminal advertising, and debunks the work on which many
    countries, like the UK, jumped to legislation.

    Wade's right. It's an urban myth in the sense that even the best known
    "examples", like the frames of coca-cola in films making people buy more
    coke, are now highly suspect and weren't based on rigourous tests.

    Vincent

    > ----------
    > From: Lawrence DeBivort
    > Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 4:55 pm
    > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Subject: RE: taboos
    >
    > Doug Brooker:
    > > Why would advertisers want to use something that all clinical trials
    > shows doesn't work and is also likely to get the advertiser and agency
    > into deep merde? Did you see see the 'rat'?
    >
    > LdB:
    > I would be surprised if, well done, subliminal advertising doesn't work.
    > Does anyone have references on studies that suggest that it does/doesn't?
    >

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