Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id LAA06148 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:39:29 +0100 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:36:10 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: The Demise of a Meme Message-ID: <20010327113610.A1417@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <20010326190342.AAA27691@camailp.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]> <20010327101930.C581@reborntechnology.co.uk> <3AC065AB.3C6E4077@bioinf.man.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AC065AB.3C6E4077@bioinf.man.ac.uk>; from Christopher.Taylor@man.ac.uk on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 11:04:27AM +0100 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 11:04:27AM +0100, Chris Taylor wrote:
> > This [meditation] is about finding new patterns in information previously
> > received. Developing theory, in other words, not collecting observations.
>
> Creating free space - the maximum area to unpack semi-processed thoughts
> and allow them to interact, merging with generic archetypes,
> recombining, competing to fit dynamic niches.
Absolutely!
> This is where a meme
> theory has real explanatory power to deploy so I'll come back to a
> question I tried to raise a while ago:
>
> How many people consider memes to stop at the level of a communicable
> disease, and how many think (like me) that everything (literally, apart
> from mid/lower brain stuff) that is you is memetic[1] in some sense -
> that everything about a mind is memes in the same way that the world (we
> see) is more or less organisms (plus some rock, water and soil and
> stuff).
I think I'm with you (and Dennett) on this, but:
> [1] I use the term differently (to some) because I don't *require*
> interpersonal transfer to define a meme, I like to think of it more as a
> word like 'organism'.
This reminds me of something on the list a little while back that I didn't
agree with -- it went a little too far regarding inclusiveness -- but
I don't know if that was your's or not. Maybe if you said a little more?
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