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On 25 Mar 2001, at 10:48, Robin Faichney wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 03:41:03PM -0600, joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > On 24 Mar 2001, at 15:04, Robin Faichney wrote: > > > Your idea of
> the self is quite well-defined, Joe -- as well-defined as > > it can
> be, I think. But do you think that, when they use the word, > >
> everyone else always means the same by it? > > > I can't think of a
> single word that means the exact same thing to all > who use it.
>
> And you don't think you should allow for such equivocation when you
> make statements about "the self"? If the word has different meanings,
> surely statements made using it have variable truth values?
>
Given the meaning which I explicitly and definitionally attached to
the word "self", the truth value of my statements concening same
is a matter of scientific verification. There IS voluminous and
comprehensive PET-scan verified evidence of top-down control, and
there ARE measureable long-term changes engendered by
education or conditioning, via the myelinization of neural pathways
stimulated by the MAP-2 protein which is produced when a
pathway is continuously used, as a result of the increased
electrical stimulation of it. The self, and self-conscious awareness
of it, as defined by me, indubitably DOES exist, and anyone who
disputes same is by necessity being self-contradictory, in both
senses of the term. Your pitiful and pathetic attempt at linguistic
sophistry receives from me the attention it deserves, which is not
much.
> --
> Robin Faichney
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