Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id XAA21561 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:44:48 GMT Subject: Re: Toggling nature's auto-erase Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:41:02 -0500 x-sender: wsmith1@camail2.harvard.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, Claritas Est Veritas From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> To: "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <20010315234102.AAA19057@camailp.harvard.edu@[205.240.180.44]> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Hi Joe E. Dees -
>When I get the eureka 
>experience, it's for a good, genuine and authentic reason.
I know of no other eureka experience. Eureka, after all, means, "I have 
found it," in reference to a long-sought and long-elusive answer. It 
means actively looking.
Such is the creative experience- "When I discover something new, and 
after much effort, finally gain a penetrating understanding-" as you said.
I don't think, at all, that such moments come from "contemplating 
nothing, or my navel, or my heartbeat or breath".
But, where do such moments come from? And how can we promote them? And 
how can we let everyone, everywhere, know this moment, and not just for 
one moment, but for many, many moments, in all moments of their life?
I have found only science supplying these moments. Only the heuristic 
path we call science leads to such moments.
Only the marvelous is beautiful.
>That's why I quit doing it.
If you are speaking of meditation (well, perhaps, yogic breathing or 
something like that), then, yes, of course you quit- if you have known 
the eureka experience, you certainly know such techniques are useless to 
provide one.
The eureka experience comes from a gathering of knowledge of nature and 
one's motion within it, and is not willed or coerced into existence, or 
waited for, however patiently.
And it makes one leap naked from the bath and into the dream.
- Wade
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