Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id TAA20615 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:34:49 GMT From: <joedees@bellsouth.net> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:37:33 -0600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Toggling nature's auto-erase Message-ID: <3AB0C59D.12615.ED1A9@localhost> In-reply-to: <20010315154338.A632@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <20010315121703.AAA25685@camailp.harvard.edu@[205.240.180.34]>; from wade_smith@harvard.edu on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 07:17:03AM -0500 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On 15 Mar 2001, at 15:43, Robin Faichney wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 07:17:03AM -0500, Wade T.Smith wrote:
> > Hi Robin Faichney -
> >
> > >> - to the point of which I have declared, manifesto-like, "To a
> > >> life without memes!" which, to me, is a utopian and ideal
> > >> state...
> > >
> > >You might be surprised to learn that Sue Blackmore and I are in
> > >complete agreement with you on that. Of course, we equate
> > >memelessness with Enlightenment, which you probably don't. But
> > >then, what does that tell us, other than that your concept of
> > >Enlightenment differs from ours?
> >
> > And I had wondered what one with a buddhist's vocabulary would think
> > of 'a life without memes' since it is so seemingly identical to a
> > life without maya.
> >
> > I would concur, also, that 'enlightenment' is a good word for this
> > condition.
>
> Picture me pleasantly surprised.
>
> > And, yes, I don't think our concepts differ at all. This concept of
> > a being at raw interface with nature is part of the hero archetype,
> > after all. It is the beauty of the simple and the powerful playing
> > together.
>
> Indeed.
>
The myths of the noble savage and the ancient sage and the
shamanic/indigenous perfect
knowledge/understanding/comprehension and the primal eden are
all themselves maya; pernicious memetic ill- and/or delusions
passed again and again from the credulous to the gullible.
> --
> Robin Faichney
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