RE: Lesser genes than expected

From: Vincent Campbell (v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk)
Date: Wed Feb 21 2001 - 10:29:45 GMT

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    From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk>
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    Ah but did the Hamster have the sense to drop out like several of our
    esteemed contributors?

    > ----------
    > From: Lawrence DeBivort
    > Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:42 pm
    > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Subject: RE: Lesser genes than expected
    >
    >
    > > Kenneth Van Oost:
    > >
    > > Maybe intelligence, self- awareness,...has less to do with genetics
    > > but more with memetics.
    > >
    > >
    > > LdB:
    > > If intelligence is the ability to consider a great deal of
    > > information, find new and useful patterns in it, and propose courses
    > > of action that acheive outcomes better than those proposed by others,
    > > then memes and other non-memetic beliefs do have a lot to do with
    > > intelligence, beyond any impacts on intelligence that are genetically
    > > based. No matter how good the genes, if an individual's beliefs are
    > > poorly selected, they will not easily be able to perform in the
    > > 'intelligent' manner suggested above.
    > >
    >
    > Joe:
    > On the other hand, you can send a hamster to Harvard and show it
    > non-stop BBC and PBS and still have just a hamster that won't
    > pass the mirror test for self-awareness. The brains we evolved are
    > necessary as memetic environments.
    >
    > LdB:
    > Agreed. We tried just that and concluded that while the hamster did not
    > appear any more intelligent that before his Harvard experience, he did
    > enjoy
    > the freshmen dining hall immensely.
    >
    >
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