Re: Darwinian evolution vs memetic evolution

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    My guess is that animal complex concepts are relatively strictly limited to
    combinations of sensorimotor primes as well as a few hierarchical relations-
    so basic adjectival notions such as big/bigger, colors, shapes, textures,
    weights, etc., basic verbs such as go, do, be, see, hear, touch, hit, etc.,
    and basic nouns such as you, me, kin, various classes of predators, foods,
    trees, water (and perhaps also fire, extended from concepts of
    day/light/heat). The interesting thing about the above basic set of terms is
    that these are the ones which tend to grammaticalize in the history of
    language as it goes from one without grammatical morphology to one with a
    lot. They are generics, good over broad ranges of application.
    Grammaticalization is considered by linguists to be a form of
    syntacticization of lexical items. Indeed, after abstracting away word order
    and movement, they RUN the grammar, in ways that belie the actual meanings of
    the ancestral lexical items, often retained to some extent as the terms shift
    usage.

    Opposite this are extremely specific manner terms, the ideophones- found in
    probably more than half the world's more than 6000 languages- which are
    extrasyntactic in origin, and completely phonosemantically transparent. Given
    that most of the languages with large sets of such forms are lacking in most
    morphology (indeed, have many fewer verb roots than you would expect, and
    those are very general, as above), I've now posited that ideophones are
    actually unbound grammatical elements, cut loose not only from the lexical
    items from which most grammatical items in other languages hang but also from
    the syntactic train.

    Animals may or may not have something like ideophones in their communicative
    repertoires. I just don't know. Nobody's ever thought to ask, so none have
    looked. But if they have basic terms (even just as memes), then they likely
    have the other as well- just encoded differently from humans, in holistic,
    relatively time-invariant signals.

    Note that the generics are basic level terms, in cognitivist terminology- you
    can get more or less specific/shift scope and still be within normal
    vocabulary. When you get to ideophones, though, they are outside completely.
    They don't have any particular lashings to any particular lexical items, at
    least at first. That can change, but when it does, apparently other aspects
    of the Roschean hierarchy shift as well. Cyclic?

    Jess Tauber
    zylogy@aol.com

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