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On 18 Feb 2001, at 3:00, Scott Chase wrote:
>
A classic example is D'Arcy Thompson's work ON GROWTH AND
FORM.
>
>
>
> >From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
> >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> >To: "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> >Subject: Re: Darwinian evolution vs memetic evolution
> >Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:31:53 -0500
> >
> >Hi Joe E. Dees -
> >
> > >And thus begins the endless journey into the semiotic web, where
> > >each word meaning depends upon the meanings of a plethora of
> > >others, endlessly.
> >
> >Which I'll graciously if hangheadedly admit to undertaking, perhaps
> >all too often. But I remain somewhat confused about how one can talk
> >about stability within dynamic processes, although, even the river's
> >banks stay on their sides.
> >
> >
> There is some stability in developmental processes. At least for
> vertebrates there's a basic body plan (bauplan) and a procession
> through a relatively conserved phylotypic period of development where
> one sees things like a notochord, post anal tail, and pharyngeal
> apparatus (arches and pouches). Vertebrates are known to have dorsal
> hollow central nervous systems too. >From these shared beginnings
> vertebrate embryos diverge from their archetype along pathways that
> show major variations on a theme. Whether this phylotypic stability
> reflects developmental constraint or stabilizing selection is a matter
> of debate.
>
> Reading some Piaget recently, I'm tempted to invoke canalization or
> chreodes (sensu Waddington), where one can visualize a river bed of
> sorts, a necessary path.
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