Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id XAA02892 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 9 Feb 2001 23:36:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.240.220.143] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Darwinian evolution vs memetic evolution Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 18:33:18 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F122uevz176RbFGIUUJ00002e11@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2001 23:33:18.0617 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEA41890:01C092F0] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: "memetics list" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
>Subject: Re: Darwinian evolution vs memetic evolution
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:14:49 -0500
>
>Hi Scott Chase -
>
> >Chopping tails off rodents is quite convincing, enough to extend across
>the
> >whole of nature.
>
>But no offspring will have shortened tails....
>
Yes, but is this mutilation convincing evidence against (neo)-Lamarckian
phenomena which in itself is extendable to cover *all* of nature? We know, I
suppse, that tail chopping in rodents doesn't have noticeable heritable
effects on progeny.
>
>Although rodents with shorter tails may be less annoyed by tail-choppers,
>and thus have more potential survivability....
>
>I remain unconvinced of any lamarckian processes in nature.
>
>
I too remain unconvinced that Lamarckish phenomena exist in nature, but try
to be open minded, whwn possible. There's a difference between being
unconvinced and being dogmatically unconvincable.
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