Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA23168 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:31:59 GMT Message-ID: <001f01c09149$c0e13a40$950bbed4@default> From: "Kenneth Van Oost" <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> References: <NEBBKOADILIOKGDJLPMAAEJNCAAA.debivort@umd5.umd.edu> Subject: Re: Darwinian evolution vs memetic evolution Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:52:06 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Hi Lawrence,
What you write below I can conjure with, but some remarks if I may...
> 1. That memetic evolution within a person is iterative -- memes come and
go,
> and can be refined over a period of time within an individual; genetic
> evolution involves a one-shot interaction. memetic evolution can be
'undone'
> or readily modified over time.
<< Genetic evolution can nowadays be " undone " too ! It can be modified
not over time, but at the present moment. Genetic engineering, remerber...
> 3. Memetic evolution is more complex that genetic in the sense that a
person
> may be confronted by many conflicting memes at any moment, and so produce
a
> result that is less predictable, less simple than in genetic evolution.
(I'm
> not too happy with the way I have phrased this -- I hope it makes sense.)
<< Genetics is nowadays less predictable than it was before...and it is not
getting simpler either. Genetic evolution may offer only one choise, I am
not totally convinced about that, but lets say it does, than human behavior
and the human belief that time is money may undo that one choise which
has been giving to you. Accidents are bound to happen when humans get
in the picture...
> 5. Memetic evolution offers fine-tuning choices to those launching memes,
> and considerable controls over their adoption by those receiving a meme.
> Genetic evolution offers only one choice, pregnancy or not. (I'm not too
> happy with the way I explain this one, either...)
<< In addition to the above, no !, genetic evolution can offer you more than
one choise... test- tube babies, Sperma- banks etc...you can " put " your
own child together out of the best behavior- characteristics, the ones you
see fit according to your desires !!
And than again, back to my remark on point 3, all your efforts would be
invain if some doctor makes a mistakes...
Best
Kenneth
( I am, because we are)
===============================================================
This was distributed via the memetics list associated with the
Journal of Memetics - Evolutionary Models of Information Transmission
For information about the journal and the list (e.g. unsubscribing)
see: http://www.cpm.mmu.ac.uk/jom-emit
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Wed Feb 07 2001 - 20:41:46 GMT