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From: <joedees@bellsouth.net>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Darwinian evolution vs memetic evolution
> We're neither absolutely free nor absolutely determined; Sartre's
> position of absolute freedom was refuted by Merleau-Ponty, who
> stated that freedom could only manifest itself within a field of
> unfreedom with which it could be compared and contrasted -
> otherwise, both terms are rendered bereft of meaning, since they
> only derive meaning from each other, as correlative opposites
> concerning one's lived situation. We are free to type emails, but
> not free to teleport ourselves to Mars.
<< I agree with this. We are neither genetical/ memetical free nor are we
genetical/ memetical determined_ we should account for the environmental
changes which are not in any way determined, or you should count in that
those changes are due/ are the result of/ to human action and behavior and
than again, neither genes nor memes do have any notion of any pre- predic-
ted outcome of the actions which they do set in motion. >>
Kenneth
( I am, because we are)
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