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On 6 Feb 2001, at 9:12, Robin Faichney wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 10:08:19PM -0600, joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > On 5 Feb 2001, at 20:17, Robin Faichney wrote: > > > I did not say
> we are free only to do some things, or only to some > > extent -- that
> is so obvious as to be needless to say. What I said > > was, we are
> free only in some senses. > > > Well, obviously some of us are free
> enough to choose to consider > themselves unfree, or was that complex
> web of neuronal dynamism > forever set at the instant of the Big Bang,
> too?
>
> Do you think "we are free only in some senses" means "we are unfree"?
>
> If you don't understand what I'm saying, why not just say so, and ask
> for clarification?
>
Freedom means that our emergent self-conscious awareness can
exert causal control, not just over our bodies, but over our brains; in
the short run, in the neuronal activity patterns (what we choose to
think of, and how we choose to think of it (memory, anticipation,
directed perception, abstract cognition, etc.)) influences what parts
of our brain are more used (and PET scans bear this out), and in
the long run, the free-will motivated continued usage of some
neuronal pathways rather than others selectively strengthens and
myelinizes them (by virtue of the electrochemical activity of the
neurons being utilized stimulating production of the myelination-
facilitating MAP-2 protein on site).
> --
> Robin Faichney
> robin@reborntechnology.co.uk
>
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