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Hi all,
Just checking some old posts i came across this one.
To Scott and Mark,
Yes you can ' impregnate yourself with grain or pollen of your own
creation,
they are called psychosomatic memes and Derek Gatherer did link us to
www.annals.org/issues/v131n11/full/199912070-00019.html
Vincent expressed his hunger for thought but this thread never took of...
All the regards,
Kenneth
( I am, because we are) closing in on Joe here ( 161)
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Mills <mmills@htcomp.net>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: phenotypic plasticity and ontogeny
> Scott,
>
> At 04:19 AM 1/21/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >Perhaps self-fertilization is a possibility. Could I impregnate myself
> >with an ideational grain of pollen of my own creation and perhaps even
> >serve as my own midwife? I think I'm actually doing that right now, but
> >the pollen I'm spreading on my own stigmae is possibly pollinating the
> >flowers of many others as a byproduct. Shall I now reap what I sow?
> >Hopefully it's a good harvest, considering the intellectual drought and
all.
>
> Consider the implications of Edelman's 'neuronal group selection' with
> respect the notion of 'self.' If our neural system is composed of
> competing neuronal groups, what is the 'self'? Would it be the current
> 'top dog' neuronal group? An interference pattern? A harmonic?
>
> I certainly 'experience' myself as a continuous entity, a unitary 'self,'
> but perhaps science is suggesting a different model.
>
> If our mind is the product of neuronal group selection, then the sort of
> memetic stimulus-convolution I described earlier is possible within a
> single neural system, among independent, competing neuronal groups.
>
> Mark
>
> http://www.htcomp.net/markmills
>
>
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