Re: phenotypic plasticity and ontogeny

From: Kenneth Van Oost (Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be)
Date: Sun Feb 04 2001 - 15:11:34 GMT

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    Hi all,

    Just checking some old posts i came across this one.

    To Scott and Mark,
    Yes you can ' impregnate yourself with grain or pollen of your own
    creation,
    they are called psychosomatic memes and Derek Gatherer did link us to
    www.annals.org/issues/v131n11/full/199912070-00019.html

    Vincent expressed his hunger for thought but this thread never took of...

    All the regards,

    Kenneth

    ( I am, because we are) closing in on Joe here ( 161)

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Mark Mills <mmills@htcomp.net>
    To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
    Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 8:00 PM
    Subject: Re: phenotypic plasticity and ontogeny

    > Scott,
    >
    > At 04:19 AM 1/21/01 -0500, you wrote:
    > >Perhaps self-fertilization is a possibility. Could I impregnate myself
    > >with an ideational grain of pollen of my own creation and perhaps even
    > >serve as my own midwife? I think I'm actually doing that right now, but
    > >the pollen I'm spreading on my own stigmae is possibly pollinating the
    > >flowers of many others as a byproduct. Shall I now reap what I sow?
    > >Hopefully it's a good harvest, considering the intellectual drought and
    all.
    >
    > Consider the implications of Edelman's 'neuronal group selection' with
    > respect the notion of 'self.' If our neural system is composed of
    > competing neuronal groups, what is the 'self'? Would it be the current
    > 'top dog' neuronal group? An interference pattern? A harmonic?
    >
    > I certainly 'experience' myself as a continuous entity, a unitary 'self,'
    > but perhaps science is suggesting a different model.
    >
    > If our mind is the product of neuronal group selection, then the sort of
    > memetic stimulus-convolution I described earlier is possible within a
    > single neural system, among independent, competing neuronal groups.
    >
    > Mark
    >
    > http://www.htcomp.net/markmills
    >
    >
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