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Bill, what do you mean, 'turn on their masters'? Do you mean that the effect
of th ememe was counter to what its launcher intended -- that it backfired?
or are you thinking that a meme 'mutated' in some way during the course of
its dissemination and that the mutated meme then harmed the interests of the
launcher?
- Lawrence
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From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
Of William Benzon
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 4:24 PM
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Labels for memes
on 1/31/01 10:31 AM, Richard Brodie at richard@brodietech.com wrote:
[snip]
> There is no success unless the meme gets created in customers' minds. This
> is memetic engineering, the conscious salting of minds with deliberate
> self-serving memes. The meme isn't being transmitted from a source mind
but
> rather created from a fictionalized microdrama with the intention that
> people's minds accept it as peer behavior.
Have there been any cases of memetic rebellion where such deliberately
engineered memes decide to turn on their masters? If so, what? If not,
what tricks do memetic engineers use to keep their memes in line?
BB
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