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Subject: Re: DNA Culture .... Trivia?
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From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
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> On 01/17/01 10:28, Robin Faichney said this-
>
> >I disagree, Vincent. I think your reply is just as worthwhile as what
> >stimulated it.
>
> Sounds like a dis.
>
> But I weren't joking.
>
> Genetics, as an evolutionary item, is _only_ transmission through sex-
> otherwise it is replication, and replication is fine amidst cells that
> are duplicating and grow in a niche within an organism, to help, ignore,
> or destroy it, but there is no _genetic_ replication from organism to
> organism, from me to you, for instance, (even with sex in our case, uh,
> yet....)
>
> So, why? I ask, do we consider memetic replication _at all_?
>
> Why aren't we considering memetic _sex_?
>
> That was my question, and I really don't think it is trivial at all.
>
> Or worthless.
>
You would prefer to use words like fertility, sterility, fecundity,
penetration, insemination, pregnancy, potency or impotence? The
proof of the pudding's in the eating; describe a memetic
propagation using such terms. It might be (pant!) fun to read! You
are right, however, that yeast cells, which are asexual and bud,
replicate, and we don't, since our kids are not our clones.
>
> - Wade
>
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