Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id OAA16761 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:32:14 GMT Message-ID: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745BCD@inchna.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: DNA Culture .... Trivia? Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:30:40 -0000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
<Look, I'm not saying accept this old stuff hook line and sinker.
But I do
> think there's work of value, more in psychoanalysis than in Jung. And,
> just
> as there are thinkers who have rejected psychoanalysis, so there are
> thinkers who, for the last 30 years, have been working to reconstruct
> psychoanalytic ideas on more modern intellectual foundations derived from
> ethology, cognitive psychology, systems theory, and the neurosciences.>
>
Isn't memetics an effort to do the same for cultural studies?
<Of course nations are social constructions, how could it be
otherwise?>
Well,what I meant was an ideational construction. The processes of
the origin and transmission of particular nationalisms are not well
understood or agreed upon, in the same way that people don't really know
why, say, Jesus spawned a global religion when lots of other anti-Roman
rabbis at the time didn't.
< And nationalism needs to be studied in much the same way that
religion has been.
> Anderson's work has been seminal in that regard.>
>
Well, perhaps. I'm not sure nationalism and religion are that
consonant. The concept of the nation is a relatively recent concept
compared to religion, after all.
Vincent
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