Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id KAA13282 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sun, 14 Jan 2001 10:26:28 GMT Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:44:39 +0000 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: DNA Culture .... Trivia? Message-ID: <20010114094439.A1292@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745BC7@inchna.stir.ac.uk>; <20010112184157.A1834@reborntechnology.co.uk> <200101130456.XAA27096@mail5.lig.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200101130456.XAA27096@mail5.lig.bellsouth.net>; from joedees@bellsouth.net on Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 11:02:32PM -0600 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 11:02:32PM -0600, Joe E. Dees wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 04:29:58PM -0000, Vincent Campbell wrote:
> > >
> > > Physicists today aren't giants, for the most part standing on Einstein's
> > > shoulders, biologists (and all variations thereof) are standing on Darwin's
> > > shoulders, psychologists (many rather reluctantly) on Freud's shoulders etc.
> > > etc.
> >
> > Tell that to a gathering of academic psychologists and they'll string
> > you up from the nearest lamppost, Vincent.
> >
> Many psychoanalysts still follow one of the biggies or other (Freud,
> Jung, Adler, Erickson, Rogers, Maslow, Laing, May, Fromm, etc.),
> or even the behaviorist model (Watson, Skinner, etc.) but there
> have been a few revolutions in psychology since those days, for
> instance cognitive psychology and evolutionary psychology.
No, not merely "revolutions since those days". I studied in a
predominantly experimentally-oriented department, and most people there
would tell you Freud no played no part whatsoever in the intellectual
history of their discipline. I never heard his name mentioned -- nor
any other name in that list besides Rogers and Maslow, and they were
merely mentioned in passing -- until, in my last year, I fell in with
the "black sheep" of the department and was assigned an essay on Freud.
Of course, psychoanalysis and contemporary academic psychology are very,
very different beasts. And no self-professed psychoanalyst will have
anything whatsoever to do with behaviourism, nor vice versa. These are,
in effect, different disciplines, rather than different developmental
stages of one discipline.
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