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on 1/11/01 11:36 PM, Mark Mills at mmills@htcomp.net wrote:
> Bill,
>
> At 01:27 PM 1/11/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>> To summarize, an objection to neural memes because it would be impossible
>>> to find '1 behavior to 1 brainpattern' misinterprets the model.
>>
>> What model? You don't have a model of any kind, just heart-felt wishes.
>
> If you are interested in investigating the neural meme paradigm, you might
> look into these sites. The agent based modeling work creates a simple
> 'neural meme' simulation via individual agent memories, change memory
> procedures and population dynamics analysis. I have not found of these
> researchers using the term 'meme,' but their work fits what I've been
> describing.
>
> Check them out. I'd be happy to discuss their models fit the neural meme
> scheme.
Oh...if that's how you play the neural memetics game, then, sure, looks like
lots of fun. But it doesn't look like science. I'm not interested in
schools of agent programs that pass meme-like thingys to one another or that
evolve in some fashion. Those surely are a dime a dozen. I'm interested in
a strong empirical model that says "here's a meme in the nervous system and
here's how it replicates from one nervous system to another."
That's what's missing from all orthodox internalist memetics, that and some
account of the EEA for the phenotypic expression of those memes.
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