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Subject: Re: Self-defense
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> In a message dated 12/12/00 7:28:04 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> wade_smith@harvard.edu writes:
>
>
> > Subj: Re: Self-defense
> > Date: 12/12/00 7:28:04 AM Pacific Standard Time
> > From: wade_smith@harvard.edu (Wade T.Smith)
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/12/00 05:45, Robin Faichney said this-
> >
> > >All those I've found willing to defend the self
> > >make it very obvious, in their emotional tone, that they feel they're
> > >defending themselves.
> >
> > I'm quite willing to defend the idea of the self without getting
> > personally involved, in the same way I'm willing to defend the idea of
> > evolution without getting pissed off that dogs and I have a lot in
> > common....
> >
> > The self is the way we've happened, that's all.
> >
> > To me, the personal investment is more on the side of those who defend
> > the 'not-self'. They are the ones who want to disinvest the human of his
> > origins and command him to some divine distinction.
> >
> >
>
> Hi Wade,
>
> Your one sentence says it all:
>
> "The self is the way we've happened, that's all."
>
> What is this notion about self-defense?
>
Some people are just emotionally attached to non-attachment, and
their self-esteem is bound together with the doctrine of no-self.
>
> Len Jayson
>
>
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