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> Chris, are these distinction you are making related to G. Spencer Brown's
> 'algebra' in any way? (LAWS OF FORM).
>
> - Lawrence
>
Spencer-Brown's material as well as the extentions done by Kaufmann and
Varela are good examples of the neurology at work. Their work 'resonates'
since they capture the oscillations that occur within although from reading
the texts they did no explicitly know that (although I think Varela had/has
an intuition about it). Our sensory systems deal with paradox by converting
BOTH/AND into DYNAMIC EITHER/OR.. but this is not just paradox in that
reality is GENERALLY BOTH/AND (full of potentials) that are converted to
LOCAL EITHER/ORs (an actual).
The A~AA~AA~A sequence, shown in Spencer-Brown as abababa ( I cannot use his
other symbolism here) is 'the same' as the left hemisphere/right hemisphere
oscillations in that the right is more ~A when compare to the left that is
more A. (in general :-))
There is also a complementary pattern as well as an oppositional one, thus
the ~A is (a) NOT A and (b) a harmonic of A.
The work done by Pedigrew at the University of Queensland into bipolar
disorder shows that the oscillations are irregular to a degree when the sum
of oscillations over a time period show varying degrees of spent time in one
hemisphere. He was able to correlate this with depressive episodes (right
hemi in most) etc.
This gets into some interesting states, for example, over a determined time
period I can map out all of the POSSIBLE states given (a) the dichotomy of
left/right (b) the DIFFERENT behavioural characteristics of left/right (can
vary but there is a general set) (c) the time periods spent 'in' left or
right.
For example, a mental state over 1 second where I 'stay' in the left will be
different to the same period if I stay in the right. If there is an
irregular timing over a six second time span then I will be in one of 2^6
possible states at the end of the 6 seconds. I.e.
LLRLLR
or
LLLRRR
or
LRLRLR
etc etc where the expression LLL means staying in the left for three seconds
etc.
From reviewing dichotomisations processes where the same method seems to be
used at all scales so we see here a mapping of experience applicable to
seconds as well as years (as in manic-depressive states).
For refs to reflect on, see the those I supplied Mr Dees about 2 emails
ago... there is also the concept of Cymatics where sand is put on a surface
and the surface is made to vibrate. Patterns emerge in the sand due to the
frequency of the vibration (which by definition is an oscillation and not
necessarily regular). Extend this concept into the brain where we move from
2D/3D to 3D/4D. This gets into the concept of resonance of MEANING linked to
combining our emotion system with the wave metaphor, thus the receiving of
data is in the form of a vibration that sets-off the emotions, the resulting
pattern is a 'meaning'.
Note in all of this that it is the ATTENTION system that focuses thus each
act of zooming-in on something acts to 'start' a particularisation, this the
general oscillation is modulated and we get into FM vs AM processing of
data.
Memory then encodes the patterns (or a sub set of the 'best' harmonics to
aid in recall) and that data can be used later as feedback into another
particularisation.
best,
Chris.
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Chris Lofting
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