Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id JAA24469 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:24:38 GMT Message-ID: <001e01c064e5$92089be0$b463b8d0@default> From: "Lawrence de Bivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> References: <LPBBICPHCJJBPJGHGMCIAEKBCLAA.ddiamond@ozemail.com.au> Subject: Re: The Unbreachable Barrier Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 04:17:50 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Chris, are these distinction you are making related to G. Spencer Brown's
'algebra' in any way? (LAWS OF FORM).
- Lawrence
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From: Chris Lofting <ddiamond@ozemail.com.au>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 3:21 AM
Subject: RE: The Unbreachable Barrier
> ho humm .. when differentiating anything you focus on a particular, you
make
> a distinction and that process creates an initial distinction of ONE vs
NOT
> ONE aka MANY.
>
> The ONE is now the context within which you do further analysis. If you do
> not retain this context then all that follows is 'meaningless'.
>
> Dichotomies, Trichotomies, X-otomies, as I have repeatedly stated both on
> and offline to Dees come out of the MANY, the NOT ONE, ~A.
>
> It is here that we start to disect the ONE and the initial process means
> applying the SAME method but now within the context of the ONE. IOW we
> always retain a sense of the CONTEXT within which we are interpreting, the
> universe of discourse within which we make A/~A cuts ad infinitum.
>
> This disection process can be seen in nature; consider light. WHITE light
is
> broken down into its harmonics, aka colours, and in doing so we find that
> WITHIN THE CONTEXT of white light we have your TRIADIC format of
> RED:GREEN:BLUE. But this is NOT the COMPLETE story since ANY context has
its
> negation as a harmonic. In light it is BLACK and this takes us into
another
> TRIAD, of cyan, magenta, and yellow (not 'precise' though, mixing them
comes
> out as a sort of muddy brown so we cheat and add a bit of black!)
>
> So we have:
>
> WHITE - RED, GREEN, BLUE
> BLACK - CYAN, MAGENTA, YELLOW
>
> oow, look, 8 states to give a complete picture (!). Trying to work with
> threes without any reference to the context is the realm of fantasy, of
> dreams, illusions.
>
> The initial distinction is of WHITE/BLACK which is the same as A/~A except
> that the MANY contains both negation as well as all harmonics. More
> reflection is when we then look at HARMONICS from which emerges all else,
> all of the 'chords' of colour as well as of music as well as of thought.
> Harmonics analysis favours the use of wave analysis and probabilities, of
> DYNAMIC processes; QUALITY is reflected in probabilities.
>
> The INITIAL distinction of a 1:many manifests the root DICHOTOMY we use in
> the form of BIFURCATIONS where the 1 is constant and the many is variable.
> In the realm of the variable, 2 comes before 3, 3 before 4 etc BUT the
> development of the movement from 2-3-4 contains within it the process of
> bifurcations something DEES has a problem with, as he has with dynamic
> processes.
> This process favours exponential developments.
>
> In the analysis of such triad biased individuals as Charles Pierce we find
> that, working in a context of late 19th century thought, there is a lack
in
> precision, in consideration of DYNAMIC processes such that relationships
etc
> are not differentiated properly. Dees shows his bias when he emphasises a
> 'whole and parts' perspective which is TOTALLY out of touch with analysis
in
> that EMERGENCE comes from the space INBETWEEN objects, a whole new realm
of
> study has emerged since the mid 19th century and it is time that we got
more
> involved with this work, which includes all of the oscillations etc I
> referred to in my previous emails.
>
> Dees seems to be mentally 'stuck' in the 19th century whilst trying to
> function in 20th-21st ...
>
> Chris.
> ------------------
> Chris Lofting
> websites:
> http://www.eisa.net.au/~lofting
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ddiamond
>
>
>
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